What does it take to grow a law firm without losing sight of its people? Eric Gros-Dubois shares lessons on taking entrepreneurial risks, adapting to AI and outsourcing, hiring thoughtfully, and making career paths transparent. In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eric Gros-Dubois discuss: The “Man in the Arena” and starting a firm EPGD Business Law’s growth and partnership AI, outsourcing, and changing legal roles Recruiting, referrals, and hiring for fit Transparent career paths and associate retention Key Takeaways: Trying, learning, and making mistakes can be more valuable than waiting until you feel fully prepared. AI and outsourcing are changing entry-level legal work, and the staffing mix firms need. Build a recruiting pipeline before a staffing crisis forces rushed decisions. Look for candidates whose work history suggests commitment, while asking about the context behind short tenures. Put advancement expectations in writing so employees can see what partnership requires. "[Hiring] with wrong intentions or for the wrong motivations [results in] bad decisions." — Eric Gros-Dubois Check out my new show, Be That Lawyer Coaches Corner, and get the strategies I use with my clients to win more business and love your career again. Join the Be That Lawyer Community and connect with ambitious lawyers who are serious about growing their book of business, strengthening their brand, and becoming confident, consistent rainmakers. Ready to go from good to GOAT in your legal marketing game? Don’t miss PIMCON—where the brightest minds in professional services gather to share what really works. Lock in your spot now: https://www.pimcon.org/ Thank you to our Sponsor! LEX Reception: https://www.lexreception.com/partners/bethatlawyer Rankings.io: https://rankings.io/ Lawyer.com: https://www.lawyer.com/ Ready to grow your law practice without selling or chasing? Book your free 30-minute strategy session now—let's make this your breakout year: https://fretzin.com/ About Eric Gros-Dubois: Eric Gros-Dubois is the founder of EPGD Business Law, where he leads the firm’s corporate, estate planning, and tax practices out of the Miami office. Holding both a JD and an MBA with a concentration in finance, he combines commercial acumen with a hands-on, solutions-oriented approach to act as a strategic advisor for business owners. With prior experience spanning commercial litigation, private equity, and tax court representation, Eric focuses on building long-term client relationships and delivering practical solutions to complex personal and business challenges. Connect with Eric Gros-Dubois: Website: https://www.epgdlaw.com/team/eric-p-gros-dubois/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericgrosdubois/ Connect with Steve Fretzin: LinkedIn: Steve Fretzin Twitter: @stevefretzin Instagram: @fretzinsteve Facebook: Fretzin, Inc. Website: Fretzin.com Email: Steve@Fretzin.com Book: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more! YouTube: Steve Fretzin Call Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
What does it take to grow a law firm without losing sight of its people? Eric Gros-Dubois shares lessons on taking entrepreneurial risks, adapting to AI and outsourcing, hiring thoughtfully, and making career paths transparent.
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eric Gros-Dubois discuss:
Key Takeaways:
"[Hiring] with wrong intentions or for the wrong motivations [results in] bad decisions." — Eric Gros-Dubois
Check out my new show, Be That Lawyer Coaches Corner, and get the strategies I use with my clients to win more business and love your career again.
Join the Be That Lawyer Community and connect with ambitious lawyers who are serious about growing their book of business, strengthening their brand, and becoming confident, consistent rainmakers.
Ready to go from good to GOAT in your legal marketing game? Don’t miss PIMCON—where the brightest minds in professional services gather to share what really works. Lock in your spot now: https://www.pimcon.org/
Thank you to our Sponsor!
LEX Reception: https://www.lexreception.com/partners/bethatlawyer
Rankings.io: https://rankings.io/
Lawyer.com: https://www.lawyer.com/
Ready to grow your law practice without selling or chasing? Book your free 30-minute strategy session now—let's make this your breakout year: https://fretzin.com/
About Eric Gros-Dubois: Eric Gros-Dubois is the founder of EPGD Business Law, where he leads the firm’s corporate, estate planning, and tax practices out of the Miami office. Holding both a JD and an MBA with a concentration in finance, he combines commercial acumen with a hands-on, solutions-oriented approach to act as a strategic advisor for business owners. With prior experience spanning commercial litigation, private equity, and tax court representation, Eric focuses on building long-term client relationships and delivering practical solutions to complex personal and business challenges.
Connect with Eric Gros-Dubois:
Website: https://www.epgdlaw.com/team/eric-p-gros-dubois/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericgrosdubois/
Connect with Steve Fretzin:
LinkedIn: Steve Fretzin
Twitter: @stevefretzin
Instagram: @fretzinsteve
Facebook: Fretzin, Inc.
Website: Fretzin.com
Email: Steve@Fretzin.com
Book: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!
YouTube: Steve Fretzin
Call Steve directly at 847-602-6911
Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.